10 Biggest WTF? Style Changes in Metal
For the most part, most metal bands keep their style and sound. They know their niche, stick with it and possibly beat it to death, which is all well and good. With bands like Dismember, Bolt Thrower, Dimmu Borgir, Iron Maiden, Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel and such, fans know what they are getting and are OK with that. Heck even a few minor tangents and subtle flirtation with experimentation have risen on some of Metal’s most revered acts: Napalm Death, Amorphis, Death, Hypocrisy, Convulse, Paradise Lost, Anaal Nathrakh, Immortal, In Flames, Gorefest and the most obvious one, Metallica have changed, but all were recognizable. What about the rest?
4) Samael – from the Devil to Dance music.
Seeing a trend here? Is cyber metal some sort of weird musical virus that spreads? Here’s another band who were somewhat legendary in the early 90s black metal scene, only to shift into a ear friendly cyber metal sound- arguably the most jarring shift seeing as how evil sounding the band started in their early days and the completely limp wristed, but somehow critically acclaimed transition to 1996s Passage sounds. And then with last years Above, reverted back to a more savage form of black metal. I’m not quite sure how Samael got a pass with their style shift, but I for one didn’t buy it.
This satanic sound:
Became this somber pop sound:
To something in-between:
Interesting Idea Erik. I was really expecting to Find Disillusion on this list. The Change from ‘Back to Times of Splendor’ to ‘Gloria’ is staggering, and more than WTF? worthy – I know it’s atop my list. Either way, good read.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 07:22I actually considered Disillusion but had to limit it to 10 they def would have been 11 or 12
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 07:59I’d argue that the cyber metal concept was and is only equaled by rap “metal” as the worst thing to come down the pipe stylistically in the last few decacdes.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 09:04You forgot the biggest WTF of them all: Pyogenesis. Their transformation from death/doom to pop punk still boggles my mind.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 09:05Dimmu Borgir is a bad example of knowing what to expect, or a band that hasn’t changed. Listening to their debut in comparison to their latest album is a VERY BIG change!
Disillusion DEFINITELY should be on the list, not as 11 or 12, but possibly as #1. I can’t think of another band that changed so dramatically between releases.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 09:08Oh, and Same Difference is a FUCKING AWESOME and criminally underrated album. If this didn’t have a cute little dog on the cover, people would not be slagging it at all. Fucking killer album!
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 09:12Also, what about Celtic Frost. From the brilliance of To Mega Therion to the shit-platter of Cold Lake and then not back, but in a completely new direction with the awesomeness of Monotheist.
Sepultura from Morbid Visions to Roots to A-Lex.
Fear Factory from Soul of A New Machine to Demanufacture to Transgression back to Mechanize.
Machine Head from Burn My Eyes to Supercharger to The Blackening.
Could go on and on actually…
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 09:17Yup- Celtic Frost was another one I flirted with.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 09:42cool feature! my own wtf moment came with the showdowns second album. their debut is one of my favorite albums, but the whole glam thing they did on the follow-up…i don’t even want to think about it.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 11:46Thought I’d see Megadeth here for sure as we all remember the album Risk. Excellent article though, well done!
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 11:59^^^
With Dimmu/Sepultura/Fear Factory the change was much more gradual than the bands considered on this list I would say.
Granted Roots and Digimortal were somewhat out of left-field (the former for being so heavy on elements only previously hinted at, with the latter simply being an abortion of the sound they had been developing), but with Dimmu I really think that stylistically it’s clearly the same band from For All Tid (can’t be arsed finding the Norweigan letters)the production and focus being the maint hings that have changed/grown.
The …And Oceans one really makes me sad though.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 12:24Ha, I just reached the last band ont he list.
I thinkt he difference in their case (I won’t ruin it) is that they continue/d to do whatever they turned their hand at a really high level of quality. Their latest albums are amongst my most listened to I think.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 12:31The Samael mention made me think. Yeah they went from playing Black Metal to cyber and then just released a brilliant Black Metal album with elements of both styles. But what it made me think about was maybe a band just wants to try something out and then decide Fuck we screwed up. Then they go back to their original style. Samael’s sound didn’t change that drastically, there was still a BM element even through the cyber albums. And as far as that goes, Exodus and Eternal could stand up next to Blood Ritual and Ceremony of Opposites any day.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 12:44Another band that should be on this list is Afflicted for abruptly switching from unique progressive death to cheesy power metal over the course of only a single year.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 15:01Amorphis, In Flames, Katatonia, The Gathering (that vocalist in Almost a Dance is hilarious), Sigh, Moonspell, Paradise Lost, Anathema, Sentenced are other bands that come to mind.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 15:40Tiamat from black to pink floyd (and back)
Darkthrone death metal >cult black > punk metal
Pestilence: from straight up thrash to great fucking death metal to Jazz metal that is W.T.F? if you ask me
You didn’t even mention VoiVod, that sort of makes this post worhtless, I’m sorry to say so…
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 15:58Love the Carcass transition. Hate grind, but love their last two releases. Heartwork is an undisputed classic.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 17:10Though still death metal, Decrepit Birth going from brutal DM to Death-inspired tech death was a WTF moment to many.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 17:19“Amorphis, In Flames, Katatonia, The Gathering (that vocalist in Almost a Dance is hilarious), Sigh, Moonspell, Paradise Lost, Anathema, Sentenced are other bands that come to mind.”
Amorphis/In Flames/Katatonia were all pretty steady changes imo, certainly not WTF-worthy.
Anathema and Sentenced were drastic, but generally well-done, shifts in style – not really WTF, but more pleasantly surprising!
Paradise Lost though… yeah, forgot that one, their shift to Depeche Mode-influenced music was a definite WTF moment for most of us. Big shift and a bit harshly done.
^ also Tiamat. Black/Pink FLoyd was one thing, but the mid-period dancey-ness was wayyyyyy too much.
on Oct 11th, 2010 at 18:48Oh and thee ultimate WTF band are The Melvins right?
on Oct 12th, 2010 at 05:31With their latest surprise being that they released three consecutive records with more or less same style and the same line-up.
Another one on top of my list: Amoral – ‘Reptile Ride’ to ‘Show Your Colors’ – seriously, what a horrendous change.
on Oct 12th, 2010 at 07:01Good comments guys; a couple of things on my end- I never heard Cold Lake, just read the reviews, so i cant personally speak to that shift. And some reason i never actually got into Voivod, never heard an actual Voidvod album. Paradise Lost was actually on my list- it was typed up with youtube links and everything- but I had to put Carcass in that spot.
on Oct 12th, 2010 at 08:13‘Left Hand Path’ and ‘Clandestine’ are both solid gold stamped CLASSICS. I don’t think anyone would argue against them being called classics, especially the former.
on Oct 12th, 2010 at 12:56I thought that Mayhem’s “Grand Declaration of War” would be the number one (or number 10 for the big reveal) WTF album of all time ??!!
Decent write-up, overall. We need more stuff like this around here, keep it coming !
on Oct 12th, 2010 at 13:00Erik, seriously: “And [for] some reason i never actually got into Voivod, never heard an actual Voidvod album.” Isn’t there some TotD staffer that can school you a little? This band is so diverse and churned out some really awesome (and borderline atrocious) stuff.
on Oct 13th, 2010 at 03:21Yeah, Voivod was fucking awesome for most of their career. You really should check out “killing technology” or “Dimension Hatross” ASAP. If you can get past Snake’s vocals, there is some major genius at work.
on Oct 13th, 2010 at 14:52holy shit later Therion SUCKS.
on Oct 13th, 2010 at 17:48Enslaved had a major style change from their Eld album to what you are hearing on Axioma, its all still good but I think its a pretty big change.
My Dying Bride’s 34.7888% complete was pretty messed up, even though I thought it had a few good tunes.
Immortal going from Diabolical Fullmoon… to All Shall Fall, haha, that is a huge WTF.
This is a great subject..
on Oct 14th, 2010 at 13:14Great feature. Others you could have added:
Extol. Compare the harsh progressive black metal of Burial and Undeceived to the smoother progressive metal of The Blueprint Dives and beyond.
Cave In. From the spazzcore of Until Your Heart Stops to the spacey program of Jupiter to the indie rock of Antenna.
on Oct 14th, 2010 at 15:59disillusion is number one for me simply because back in the times of splendor is still one of my personal favorite cds.
on Oct 14th, 2010 at 17:26Another one that sticks out to me personally since i love hardcore is No warning NYHC inspired on Ill blood to the linkin park garbage on suffer, survive. that is still one of the worst cds ever made.
Early neurosis is pretty different too, listen to pain of mind then listen to the eye of every storm.
Dillinger escape plan to some degree.
I think Metallica is a serious WTF. When Justice came out that album was about as progressive as metal could get. Then when the Black Album hit, it was all trimmed down to about as straight forward as it gets. I think the whole Metal world did a WTF upon its release. Load took it a step further, not music wise, but in terms of image. The eye-liner, fur coat bullshit was definitely NOT “recognizable” as the Metallica we knew in the 80s.
on Oct 14th, 2010 at 23:47Good article. I enjoyed Covenant before the “K”. And even though Ulver changed, the albums they came out with are interesting, but hard to find for purchase.
One band I think that was missed is Moonspell. They went from satanic death/black metal, to Gothic metal, to cyber gothic metal, then gothic death metal. All in all, some good albums in there, especially at the beginning and end of their collection.
on Oct 15th, 2010 at 16:42Some more that also come to mind:
Belial – never again to 3
on Nov 7th, 2010 at 21:28Morgoth – resistance to feel sorry for the fanatic
Anorexia nervosa – exile to drudenhaus
Masters hammer – jilemnice to slagry
Almost all the links are gone so I have to give up on this list, please update it !
on Jan 19th, 2015 at 04:35we might just do a new one….
on Jan 19th, 2015 at 13:22few additions to the list..
1.Αnathema
on Sep 23rd, 2016 at 10:182.Paradise Lost
2.Opeth
3.In Flames
4.Mastodon
Maybe my eyes are a little blurred today but did anybody say Venom and the power metal years? Pretty big WTF. I still remember getting way into them in the earlier half of the 90s and then grabbing Calm Before the Storm. It was definitely not what I was expecting nor wanted.
I like the Carcass WTFs. Last two albums (pre-Surgical Steel, which I dig quite a bit) are a blast, even though I prefer the earlier stuff. Also agree that “Same Difference” is horrible, but I’m all for Uprising and Morning Star. Really dug, the covers album in that period though. The Captain Beyond one especially, but I’m a sucker for anything on Man’s Ruin Records. ANYTHING.
on Sep 23rd, 2016 at 16:15I wiil add the finish band Xysma to this list becouse their change was really WTF. They were a gore grindcore band like Carcass and became a rock n roll band whose songs were featured in the soundtrack of hollywood movies. Even their images were dramatically changed to reflect pop like artists.
on Dec 8th, 2016 at 17:30